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	<title>Comments on: Computer - A Modern Day Frankenstein?</title>
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	<description>Masha V. Petrova, PhD</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Bartmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bartmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know If I said it already but ...Excellent site, keep up the good work.  I read a lot of blogs on a daily basis and for the most part, people lack substance but, I just wanted to make a quick comment to say I'm glad I found your blog.  Thanks, :) 

A definite great read..

-Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know If I said it already but &#8230;Excellent site, keep up the good work.  I read a lot of blogs on a daily basis and for the most part, people lack substance but, I just wanted to make a quick comment to say I&#8217;m glad I found your blog.  Thanks, <img src='http://mvpmodelingsolutions.com/mvpblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>A definite great read..</p>
<p>-Bill</p>
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		<title>By: Fabienne Salimi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fabienne Salimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear William, 

Power comes with responsibility. 
We are more powerful that the other species, therefore we must be more responsible.

On the other hand protection of environment is nothing but a part of our survival effort. 
We won’t exist if there is no environment. 

The ideologies are just based on “idea” and necessarily the fact or absolute truth. 

I personally, don’t believe on theory of competition so much. The creatures are not against each other but complementary to each other. Now, you may say if it is so why to survive they should eat (destruct) each other? I don’t know and it upset me a lot!! 

As scientist we should not have or create any obstacle for thought. People talk a lot about freedom of speech but rarely freedom of “thought”. We are conditioned with many different things from the attitude of our family to our teachers, society, education, etc. 
The first step is releasing all the chains and let our thoughts and imagination fly wherever they like. 
If they go to wrong direction they will be detected as soon as we convert them to speech or thoughts and the others will adjust it somehow. 

Kindest regards, 
Fabienne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear William, </p>
<p>Power comes with responsibility.<br />
We are more powerful that the other species, therefore we must be more responsible.</p>
<p>On the other hand protection of environment is nothing but a part of our survival effort.<br />
We won’t exist if there is no environment. </p>
<p>The ideologies are just based on “idea” and necessarily the fact or absolute truth. </p>
<p>I personally, don’t believe on theory of competition so much. The creatures are not against each other but complementary to each other. Now, you may say if it is so why to survive they should eat (destruct) each other? I don’t know and it upset me a lot!! </p>
<p>As scientist we should not have or create any obstacle for thought. People talk a lot about freedom of speech but rarely freedom of “thought”. We are conditioned with many different things from the attitude of our family to our teachers, society, education, etc.<br />
The first step is releasing all the chains and let our thoughts and imagination fly wherever they like.<br />
If they go to wrong direction they will be detected as soon as we convert them to speech or thoughts and the others will adjust it somehow. </p>
<p>Kindest regards,<br />
Fabienne</p>
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		<title>By: Masha Petrova</title>
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		<dc:creator>Masha Petrova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks William! 

Interesting way of looking at this idea from two different points of view. I agree that it certainly would be self-defeating to create a competitor for ourselves on purpose - I was thinking more of this "new species" being created unavoidably, as part of the future that we out currently building.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks William! </p>
<p>Interesting way of looking at this idea from two different points of view. I agree that it certainly would be self-defeating to create a competitor for ourselves on purpose - I was thinking more of this &#8220;new species&#8221; being created unavoidably, as part of the future that we out currently building.</p>
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		<title>By: William Michels</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Michels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting Discussion! Something to ponder ... 

We humans have reached a point where we are aware of responsible stewardship for our world. Also we have evolved technologies that permit us to make great changes -- build mountains and rivers, create new species of plants and animals, etc. 

Do other species share that sense of responsibility for (1) the world around them, and (2) the protection of other species? Are other species capable of such dramatic modification of our ecosystems? 

Now, if we create a new "species" of considerable intelligence, will it share our sense of responsibility or will it seek to protect and advance its own self interests at the expense of others? 

Many people believe that God created the earth and entrusted man as its steward to protect and utilize its resources. Others believe that we are just one of many species and have no greater right to our consumption than any other. The latter is often an agnostic perspective -- whether or not God exists doesn't really play a role in the decisions. 

If we believe we are called to stewardship of this planet, then wouldn't it be irresponsible to create a powerful new species that did not share that "belief"? 

Conversely, if we believe we are equal competitors with other species, would it be self-defeating to create a species that could potentially be a formidable competitor with mankind? Again, that species would need to share our regard for mankind lest we invent our destroyer. But by imposing our beliefs on this species, we become inconsistent because we have asserting that all species have comparable rights to grow and evolve. 

Hope you enjoy considering these ideas. It will be interesting to see how intelligent machines evolve. 

Keep Smiling!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting Discussion! Something to ponder &#8230; </p>
<p>We humans have reached a point where we are aware of responsible stewardship for our world. Also we have evolved technologies that permit us to make great changes &#8212; build mountains and rivers, create new species of plants and animals, etc. </p>
<p>Do other species share that sense of responsibility for (1) the world around them, and (2) the protection of other species? Are other species capable of such dramatic modification of our ecosystems? </p>
<p>Now, if we create a new &#8220;species&#8221; of considerable intelligence, will it share our sense of responsibility or will it seek to protect and advance its own self interests at the expense of others? </p>
<p>Many people believe that God created the earth and entrusted man as its steward to protect and utilize its resources. Others believe that we are just one of many species and have no greater right to our consumption than any other. The latter is often an agnostic perspective &#8212; whether or not God exists doesn&#8217;t really play a role in the decisions. </p>
<p>If we believe we are called to stewardship of this planet, then wouldn&#8217;t it be irresponsible to create a powerful new species that did not share that &#8220;belief&#8221;? </p>
<p>Conversely, if we believe we are equal competitors with other species, would it be self-defeating to create a species that could potentially be a formidable competitor with mankind? Again, that species would need to share our regard for mankind lest we invent our destroyer. But by imposing our beliefs on this species, we become inconsistent because we have asserting that all species have comparable rights to grow and evolve. </p>
<p>Hope you enjoy considering these ideas. It will be interesting to see how intelligent machines evolve. </p>
<p>Keep Smiling!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Masha Petrova</title>
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		<dc:creator>Masha Petrova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Fabienne! 

Sounds like you are working on some very interesting projects. Very best of luck to you with that. 

Computer vs. human vs. creation is always an interesting and controvorsial topic. That is why I like writing about it. Thank you very much for your comment (if you do not object I will also add it as a comment to my blog post, so that otehr readers can see it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Fabienne! </p>
<p>Sounds like you are working on some very interesting projects. Very best of luck to you with that. </p>
<p>Computer vs. human vs. creation is always an interesting and controvorsial topic. That is why I like writing about it. Thank you very much for your comment (if you do not object I will also add it as a comment to my blog post, so that otehr readers can see it).</p>
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		<title>By: Fabienne Salimi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fabienne Salimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Masha,

You blog was finished by:

"Would we hate ourselves for playing God and treat our creations as less than human; hoping that this somehow would prevent the extinction of us as a species?

Perhaps this is a question that we all need to start asking ourselves, because it is possible that at this very moment, a real-life Frankenstein is working away at some university lab, creating his first “monster”.

According to the holy books we become God one day any way! 
If we are capable to create it means that God will was so. In fact everything that we can do God itself teaches us.

So why should we be worry about our capabilities? If there is a question/doubt is in the head of someone it should be expressed and turn to understanding and serenity. We should consider all thoughts without any censer whatsoever.

It does not people that I promote abuse. I just say if God tolerate our errors why we are playing the advocate of God? Cannot God stop the abuses by its own? I think this type of logic somehow offend God because this is nothing but disguised version of vanity and taking ourselves greater and wiser than God.

I am working on a very ambitious project called ADEPP online 3D Training Simulator &amp; Expert Support. 

We use the “expert support” term instead of “expert system” because we don’t want replace human intelligence by a program or system so called “artificial intelligence”.

We hope to realise our project without any type of complex and remembering our vulnerability and limitations as an individual all time.

Kindest regards,
Fabienne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Masha,</p>
<p>You blog was finished by:</p>
<p>&#8220;Would we hate ourselves for playing God and treat our creations as less than human; hoping that this somehow would prevent the extinction of us as a species?</p>
<p>Perhaps this is a question that we all need to start asking ourselves, because it is possible that at this very moment, a real-life Frankenstein is working away at some university lab, creating his first “monster”.</p>
<p>According to the holy books we become God one day any way!<br />
If we are capable to create it means that God will was so. In fact everything that we can do God itself teaches us.</p>
<p>So why should we be worry about our capabilities? If there is a question/doubt is in the head of someone it should be expressed and turn to understanding and serenity. We should consider all thoughts without any censer whatsoever.</p>
<p>It does not people that I promote abuse. I just say if God tolerate our errors why we are playing the advocate of God? Cannot God stop the abuses by its own? I think this type of logic somehow offend God because this is nothing but disguised version of vanity and taking ourselves greater and wiser than God.</p>
<p>I am working on a very ambitious project called ADEPP online 3D Training Simulator &amp; Expert Support. </p>
<p>We use the “expert support” term instead of “expert system” because we don’t want replace human intelligence by a program or system so called “artificial intelligence”.</p>
<p>We hope to realise our project without any type of complex and remembering our vulnerability and limitations as an individual all time.</p>
<p>Kindest regards,<br />
Fabienne</p>
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